Comments on: Help me think in MVC http://artlung.com/blog/2006/12/08/help-me-think-in-mvc/ Blogging sporadically since February 2001. Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:34:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Joe Crawford http://artlung.com/blog/2006/12/08/help-me-think-in-mvc/#comment-88691 Joe Crawford Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:21:28 +0000 http://artlung.com/blog/2006/12/08/help-me-think-in-mvc/#comment-88691 Oh, and I've found some good reading at the delicious listings for mvc: <a href="http://del.icio.us/popular/mvc" rel="nofollow">http://del.icio.us/popular/mvc</a> Oh, and I’ve found some good reading at the delicious listings for mvc: http://del.icio.us/popular/mvc

]]> By: Joe Crawford http://artlung.com/blog/2006/12/08/help-me-think-in-mvc/#comment-88689 Joe Crawford Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:19:30 +0000 http://artlung.com/blog/2006/12/08/help-me-think-in-mvc/#comment-88689 Thanks Sassy. The placement of the links on this post does not constitute endorsement. Try as I might otherwise, I dislike the .NET tools so far as I've worked with them. CakePHP and Django, on the other hand, appeal to me a great deal. Thanks Sassy.

The placement of the links on this post does not constitute endorsement. Try as I might otherwise, I dislike the .NET tools so far as I’ve worked with them. CakePHP and Django, on the other hand, appeal to me a great deal.

]]> By: Sassy http://artlung.com/blog/2006/12/08/help-me-think-in-mvc/#comment-86601 Sassy Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:30:40 +0000 http://artlung.com/blog/2006/12/08/help-me-think-in-mvc/#comment-86601 As long as you have good fundementals - how inheritance, runtime polymorphism works, the diff between classes and objects, etc... MVC is not so hard to grasp. Think back to the old "traffic cop" analogy from way back. MVC is not that different, it just does things using objects and message passing instead of switch statements and passing strings around. personally I find MVC to be a bit overblown for a lot of tasks. I really like the event-driven programming in ASP.NET which basically allows your views to talk directly to your model without worrying about how to dispatch the method calls around. Also, .NET kind of has a built-in controller which makes MVC a little troublesome. The article you posted above seems to have a whole lot of complexity around something as simple as a master-detail grid. Look around the Struts community and you will see a lot of people who are not happy with MVC because it implements a lot of complexity. But as a pre-made app framework it definitely has it's value. As long as you have good fundementals – how inheritance, runtime polymorphism works, the diff between classes and objects, etc… MVC is not so hard to grasp. Think back to the old “traffic cop” analogy from way back. MVC is not that different, it just does things using objects and message passing instead of switch statements and passing strings around.

personally I find MVC to be a bit overblown for a lot of tasks. I really like the event-driven programming in ASP.NET which basically allows your views to talk directly to your model without worrying about how to dispatch the method calls around. Also, .NET kind of has a built-in controller which makes MVC a little troublesome. The article you posted above seems to have a whole lot of complexity around something as simple as a master-detail grid.

Look around the Struts community and you will see a lot of people who are not happy with MVC because it implements a lot of complexity. But as a pre-made app framework it definitely has it’s value.

]]> By: ArtLung Blog : Archives : » MVC Updated http://artlung.com/blog/2006/12/08/help-me-think-in-mvc/#comment-85623 ArtLung Blog : Archives : » MVC Updated Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:22:02 +0000 http://artlung.com/blog/2006/12/08/help-me-think-in-mvc/#comment-85623 [...] My post asking about MVC was updated. [...] [...] My post asking about MVC was updated. [...]

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